Who is Kirk Cousins?


MTK
10-22-2015, 11:52 AM
There's no way I'd put Griffin back on the field. Ride it out with Kirk.

JoeRedskin
10-22-2015, 11:56 AM
If we are going to be fair in the evaluation, then perhaps KC needs given the same amount of time as "others" (Campbell, RG3) despite wins and losses. I'm saying at least two full seasons as starter. Joe Theismann said yesterday that he thinks one of the problems with the skins is the fact that we change QB's so often. He thinks they should ride it out with KC to see if he can be the answer long term. Jason Campbell was never benched in almost 4 seasons and the dude played BAD at times....RG3 was stinking it up last year and earlier this year before the "concussion". I'm just saying they should be fair

With all due respect, in light of his age and experience - both off the bench and in limited starting opportunities from previous years:

No.

JoeRedskin
10-22-2015, 12:00 PM
He's our best QB until we can get a better one. That's all you need to know.

You can bet McCloughan will try to draft a better one if he gets the chance in the upcoming draft.

With all due respect, in light of his age and experience - both off the bench and in limited starting opportunities from previous years:

Yes.

[Although, many more multiple pick games and I am less sold on the "our best QB" issue. Multiple consecutive INT free games from Colt, even if the ball never travels more than 20 yards in the air, makes for a better QB than Cousins.]

30gut
10-22-2015, 01:20 PM
If we are going to be fair in the evaluation, then perhaps KC needs given the same amount of time as "others" (Campbell, RG3) despite wins and losses. I'm saying at least two full seasons as starter. Joe Theismann said yesterday that he thinks one of the problems with the skins is the fact that we change QB's so often. He thinks they should ride it out with KC to see if he can be the answer long term. Jason Campbell was never benched in almost 4 seasons and the dude played BAD at times....RG3 was stinking it up last year and earlier this year before the "concussion". I'm just saying they should be fairInteresting word choice 'fair'.

You are saying Kirk needs to be given the same amount of time as other QBs and you cite Campbell and Griffin. If we are being 'fair' then the comparison should be apples to apples.

If you look at the time since Jay has been HC:

Griffin--9 games--7 starts--68.7 comp%--1,694 yds--7.9 YPA--4 TDs--6 INTs--33 sacks--227 rush yards--89 passer rating--9 fumbles

Kirk--12 games--11 starts--64 comp%--3,130 yds--7.3 YPA--16 TDs--17 INTs--15 sacks--22 rush yards--81.9 passer rating--4 fumbles


Griffin was benched after only 5 games in 2014 his stat line at the time was:

Griffin--5 games--5 starts--67.8 comp%--869 yds--8.2 YPA--2 TDs--3 INTs--20 sacks--100 rush yards--88.6 passer rating--4 fumbles

That's all it took for a 1st time HC to stop developing the uber talented and (at the time) potential franchise QB he inherited. 5 games.

WRSK1NS
10-22-2015, 01:34 PM
Interesting word choice 'fair'.

You are saying Kirk needs to be given the same amount of time as other QBs and you cite Campbell and Griffin. If we are being 'fair' then the comparison should be apples to apples.

If you look at the time since Jay has been HC:

Griffin--9 games--7 starts--68.7 comp%--1,694 yds--7.9 YPA--4 TDs--6 INTs--33 sacks--227 rush yards--89 passer rating--9 fumbles

Kirk--12 games--11 starts--64 comp%--3,130 yds--7.3 YPA--16 TDs--17 INTs--15 sacks--22 rush yards--81.9 passer rating--4 fumbles


Griffin was benched after only 5 games in 2014 his stat line at the time was:

Griffin--5 games--5 starts--67.8 comp%--869 yds--8.2 YPA--2 TDs--3 INTs--20 sacks--100 rush yards--88.6 passer rating--4 fumbles
That's all it took for a 1st time HC to stop developing the uber talented and (at the time) potential franchise QB he inherited. 5 games.

You forgot to add and "Two more injuries"

artmonkforhallofamein07
10-22-2015, 01:38 PM
Kirk Cousins is a 27 year old, 4th year pro who throws more INT's than TD's.

Really not that complicated.

He is also awful on the road.

artmonkforhallofamein07
10-22-2015, 01:42 PM
Cousins has been given time. He isn't a rookie. He is who he is and he has regressed this year. He isn't putting good games together rather he is using a good game in between his spurts of bad gameS.

skinsfaninok
10-22-2015, 02:29 PM
Cousins has been given time. He isn't a rookie. He is who he is and he has regressed this year. He isn't putting good games together rather he is using a good game in between his spurts of bad gameS.
Exactly, his last 2 games have been as bad as Rex would have.

NC_Skins
10-22-2015, 03:08 PM
. I'd rather risk the 16 mil and play Griffin if KC is benched.



:laughing2 :laughing-:laughing2:laughing-


So glad you aren't our GM.

skinsfan69
10-22-2015, 04:19 PM
:laughing2 :laughing-:laughing2:laughing-


So glad you aren't our GM.

If I were the GM I NEVER would have given him the 16 million for 2016 in the first place. Pull the thread up. I was very against it.

You also have the understand that this is the fan in me talking. If I were SM there is no way in hell I would let him see the field.

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