Who is Kirk Cousins?

Another thing to consider though is Gruden's offense fits Cousins skillset well. While I could see more downfield passing added in once we end up replacing Jackson with another deep threat or find a way to get a stud WR in here, the WCO itself is not based on a deep vertical passing game. Some coordinators have modified it in the past like the way Andy Reid ran it in Philly with McNabb.

There is a chance Kirk gets signed to another team, asking him to run a different offense and he fails or regresses.

Honestly right now if you asked me, I'd assume that Cousins & Gruden's fates are sort of tied together for the time being. They either stay or go together.

Yeah, Kirk simply met expectations against NO. Is that right?

So Kirk having a perfect QB rating against the Saints wasn't anything special to you?

You and others here just can't stand to give him the credit he deserves when he plays well. Every time he plays well you have some bullshit reason why it doesn't really count. I can hardly wait to see what you come up with to damn him with faint praise when he wins the NFC Player of the Week award for the second time this season for his play versus the Saints.

I can't speak for others, but that wasn't in any way the point I was trying to make. Kirk had a tremendous game. In no way did he simply do "what was expected" in my eyes. He balled out big time and was a general on the field yesterday.

My only point I was trying to make was that the offense itself as far as the style and plays we ran looked familiar, it was pretty par for the course as far as the play-calling itself. The team just happened to execute a hell of a lot better than usual, and for the entire game.

Furthermore when they go back up against a better defense (this coming up game vs. Carolina for example) that could go back to stopping or at least minimizing a lot of the stuff that seemed to work so easily and flawlessly against New Orleans, then I think it will be fair to bring up a lot of the questions previously asked about Cousins and the offense itself.

Kirk struggled earlier in the season which I mainly attribute to his old man being diagnosed with cancer, that can be a major distraction to any human being.

I can't speak for others, but that wasn't in any way the point I was trying to make. Kirk had a tremendous game. In no way did he simply do "what was expected" in my eyes. He balled out big time and was a general on the field yesterday.

My only point I was trying to make was that the offense itself as far as the style and plays we ran looked familiar, it was pretty par for the course as far as the play-calling itself. The team just happened to execute a hell of a lot better than usual, and for the entire game.

Furthermore when they go back up against a better defense (this coming up game vs. Carolina for example) that could go back to stopping or at least minimizing a lot of the stuff that seemed to work so easily and flawlessly against New Orleans, then I think it will be fair to bring up a lot of the questions previously asked about Cousins and the offense itself.

On a week where Peyton Manning was terrible. Where A. Rodgers lost to 2-7 Detroit. Where Drew Brees only managed 14 points against an average defense. Where Tom Brady barely beat a terrible Giants secondary. You expect KC to be perfect every game against great defenses? If the best QB's can not win against below average defenses, but yet YOU require KC to beat the best, I think you are not being realistic. Not sure what world you live in?

I think it's fair to temper Kirk's week with recognition that the Saints defense was truly inept. It's also reasonable to say that he still had a perfect QBR. That's a special feat in the NFL. I am optimistically looking towards the next 7 games, but the next two weeks will go a long way to determining KC's fate.

IF our offense can be productive against Carolina, and he doesn't throw all his make up INT's against the NYG, then he should be given an extension, or new contract (I know where they can get 16M with a stroke of a pen ;) ). No need to get into a FA frenzy if he shows he is the guy.

That said, I absolutely trust the Skins right now when it comes to making solid contracts for the guys that they want to keep. If he is the Skins' guy for the next 3 years, they will lock him up properly.

On a week where Peyton Manning was terrible. Where A. Rodgers lost to 2-7 Detroit. Where Drew Brees only managed 14 points against an average defense. Where Tom Brady barely beat a terrible Giants secondary. You expect KC to be perfect every game against great defenses? If the best QB's can not win against below average defenses, but yet YOU require KC to beat the best, I think you are not being realistic. Not sure what world you live in?

I don't require him to do anything. My point is that he is still developing into what he will be whatever it ends up being. His worst games don't define him nor do his best games at this point. No single game defines the QB Kirk Cousins is.

Where in my statement did I in any way shape or form say I expected him to be beat the best?

All I did in my analysis is point out that our offense yesterday largely looked the same as it has all season with the exception that the execution was on a an entire other level, everything clicked. No one was taken out of their comfort zone, adjustments were likely not forced to be made on a large part because the game was not dictating the need for it. Did our offense suddenly turn a corner? Was there something about it that was missing before? Or did playing an awful defense help out some? I said it was probably a little bit of both.


For the record, I think Cousins can lead the team to a victory over Carolina. I think it will be an ugly game, one in which he may very well have to overcome a mistake or two

I can't speak for others, but that wasn't in any way the point I was trying to make. Kirk had a tremendous game. In no way did he simply do "what was expected" in my eyes. He balled out big time and was a general on the field yesterday.

My only point I was trying to make was that the offense itself as far as the style and plays we ran looked familiar, it was pretty par for the course as far as the play-calling itself. The team just happened to execute a hell of a lot better than usual, and for the entire game.

Furthermore when they go back up against a better defense (this coming up game vs. Carolina for example) that could go back to stopping or at least minimizing a lot of the stuff that seemed to work so easily and flawlessly against New Orleans, then I think it will be fair to bring up a lot of the questions previously asked about Cousins and the offense itself.

I was mostly annoyed by the way 30gut dismissed Kirk's outstanding performance against NO.

As for your comments, what if Kirk plays well against Carolina and we beat an undefeated team? Do you think you might be ready to jump on the KC bandwagon at that time?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fancy-stats/wp/2015/11/16/kirk-cousins-is-playing-his-way-to-a-big-raise-this-offseason/

I was mostly annoyed by the way 30gut dismissed Kirk's outstanding performance against NO.

As for your comments, what if Kirk plays well against Carolina and we beat an undefeated team? Do you think you might be ready to jump on the KC bandwagon at that time?

If by "bandwagon" you mean I want him to succeed and be "the guy" then yes. It's never been any other way. I've always just been skeptical or anointing him too early, too soon.

Maybe it has been the way the franchise's recent (20 years and counting now?) QB situation. I've experienced watching so many young QB's who have had up and downs and we all desperately tried to see the good only in them in hopes of them eventually developing into a franchise QB.

I am definitely ready to admit that as of right now Cousins looks better than anything I've ever seen out of guys like Campbell, Ramsey, Shuler, Frerotte etc etc etc etc.....(no need to name the entire list).

I like what I see from Cousins right now, I think for me it's always been more of a "wait and see" wanting to get a more complete picture of what kind of QB Cousins is before the organization commits real money and investment into him.

Well, how many people on this forum and no doubt throughout the fan base have doubted KC's ability to fill this role (myself included)? He is definitely making some changes in that thinking with his performance of late.....