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Giantone 11-02-2017, 03:15 PM Chico this read reminded me of you ,someone blind to the problems in politics and that the same problems exist in both major parties yet you only see and blame one.
The Only Problem in American Politics Is the Republicans (http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2017/09/the-only-problem-in-american-politics-is-the-republicans.html)
Bet you won't see anything like this on FOX,aye Chico???
You scream that trump was correct about political corruptness,seriously ?????
That alone make what you say,meaningless.
Giantone 11-02-2017, 03:28 PM Yeah Chico ,keep praising trump.....................
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cc0KvP-UUAAFejT.jpg:large
TheMalcolmConnection 11-02-2017, 03:32 PM I can't believe it hasn't even been a year yet.
Have been trying to be really objective lately, and just say to myself: "If there were NO parties, and you just voted for the person you liked the most, who would you vote for?"
I voted for Hillary, but based on my question, I likely wouldn't have. Donald Trump would have been a HELL FUCKING NO. Sometimes I feel like we think of things like this in black and white. You're a liberal if you believe in ____________ and you're a conservative if you believe in ______________. Personally, I share both ideals in my day-to-day life and one of the major problems in politics is people seem to either vote based on party lines (which I think is the lowest of the low) or vote based on a SINGLE issue.
My dad voted for fucking Trump because he said, "He won't expand gun laws." We had a LOOOOOOOOONG conversation about this and his concern was, "Well, what if the laws expand?" Now, THAT'S some propaganda for you. I was like, "Where did you hear this?"
NRA newsletter.
Again, Trump is a piece of shit as a leader, as a president and most importantly as a human being. I can't imagine not seeing many of Hillary's evident flaws if she won, but I would have been OK with the status quo for four years. We're due for a true third party candidate to show up, and maybe this hell we've been living in will provide that. Hey, silver linings ya'll.
Totally rambling, but leaving EVERYTHING else out of it, is Trump really doing a good job? Do you get the impression that he cares about you? I sure as shit don't.
Chico23231 11-02-2017, 05:05 PM Chico this read reminded me of you ,someone blind to the problems in politics and that the same problems exist in both major parties yet you only see and blame one.
The Only Problem in American Politics Is the Republicans (http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2017/09/the-only-problem-in-american-politics-is-the-republicans.html)
Bet you won't see anything like this on FOX,aye Chico???
You scream that trump was correct about political corruptness,seriously ?????
That alone make what you say,meaningless.
But did you see that article is from the left leaning Politico...I don't know, but I think its fairly fascinating...especially since it inline with the previous wikileaks of DNC Wasserman corruptness and its based directly from the mouth of Donna Brazile...
This isn't an opinion article...try reading it.
if not just read this statement:
The DNC official, Donna Brazile, now a political analyst, wrote in Politico Magazine on Thursday that she discovered an August 2015 agreement between the national committee and Clinton’s campaign and fundraising arm that gave Clinton “control (of) the party’s finances, strategy, and all the money raised” in exchange for taking care of the massive debt leftover from President Barack Obama’s 2012 campaign.
Hey, do you think it would be on CNN if it was on the other foot...like "Trump took over the RNC and its massive debt...in agreement with taking over the party's finances, strategy and money raised"
That would only fit your narrative? funny about how that media-thing works.
mooby 11-02-2017, 05:31 PM Chico that kind of bs is why I didn't vote for Hillary. She just assumed all the Bernie supporters would fall in line and vote for the lesser evil, and I ain't about that.
However knowing what I know now, I believe I should have voted for Hillary, because as bad as she is the status quo would obviously have been better than the clown in office right now. Everything he does is geared towards making businesses larger profits, and his supporters like to conveniently forget he still owns a large portion of those businesses. Every weekend he goes to his golf courses, the gov't has to pay his golf course for the hassle of security. And if his tax reform goes through, how much does he stand to gain by repealing the estate tax?
It's not hard to see the ulterior motives here, but for whatever reason you're cool with it. Hope your life is enriched by all his directives. Because mine sure ain't.
TMC, I'm totally with you on this, but I don't see it getting better with any election. Only 25% of Americans turn out to vote on presidential elections, and only the diehards vote on local politics. Even when the main choices are a douche and a turd, 95% of the vote goes to them. Very few people are willing to put in the time, and look at all the research, and form their own conclusions about the issues. They'd rather retweet a Russian bot claiming Obama's try to take their guns away, or demand to see his birth certificate.
Just as bad as President Clown Shoes is, his choices for head of office are even worse. The majority of people who know what net neutrality is support it, yet that hasn't stopped the FCC Chairman Ajit Pai (former Verizon lobbyist) from trying to kill it, and he has an army of bots/dead people writing comments that support killing net neutrality that he's using to back up his strategy. It's the same with Devos, Price, Tillerson, etc. None of them have the majority of people's best interests at heart.
Final note, it's funny you mention absolute corruptness when Trump's former campaign manager got indicted on Monday because he was working for another gov't and he failed to disclose that when he joined Trump's campaign.
I know, I know, your natural defense is gonna be "he did all that shit before he joined the campaign, that has nothing to do with Trump." The only problem with that defense is your boy George Papadopoulos already pled guilty to lying to the FBI to cover up the Trump campaign-Russia relationship. 10 bucks says there's more charges coming before this investigation is concluded. In between this, Tillerson trying to set up that deal so Exxon can drill for oil in the Arctic north of Russia, the army of Russian bots influencing conservatives on social media with actual fake news, and Putin/Trump being buddy buddy it sure feels like Russia is the big winner in all of this.
Giantone 11-02-2017, 05:38 PM But did you see that article is from the left leaning Politico...I don't know, but I think its fairly fascinating...especially since it inline with the previous wikileaks of DNC Wasserman corruptness and its based directly from the mouth of Donna Brazile...
This isn't an opinion article...try reading it.
if not just read this statement:
The DNC official, Donna Brazile, now a political analyst, wrote in Politico Magazine on Thursday that she discovered an August 2015 agreement between the national committee and Clinton’s campaign and fundraising arm that gave Clinton “control (of) the party’s finances, strategy, and all the money raised” in exchange for taking care of the massive debt leftover from President Barack Obama’s 2012 campaign.
Hey, do you think it would be on CNN if it was on the other foot...like "Trump took over the RNC and its massive debt...in agreement with taking over the party's finances, strategy and money raised"
That would only fit your narrative? funny about how that media-thing works.
Funny my ass,Chico it's BS and as i said before for someone who hates CNN you sure as hell watch it alot but you give the asswipes at FOX a free pass,why?
Chico23231 11-05-2017, 11:36 AM https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/brazile-i-considered-replacing-clinton-with-biden-as-2016-democratic-nominee/2017/11/04/f0b75418-bf4c-11e7-97d9-bdab5a0ab381_story.html
“I considered replacing Clinton with Biden as 2016 Democratic nominee”
Lol what a shit show...
CRedskinsRule 11-05-2017, 01:06 PM Isis' caliphate territory is in shambles. The economy is growing at a faster rate than ever happened under Pres Obama. Unemployment is at a 17 year low, Illegal border crossings are down. Government regulations have been reduced.
People(and media) may not like Trump but if these trends all continue he will win reelection in 2020. The big question will be what happens to the Republican majorities in the 2018 election. If the Trump side of the electorate swaps a few of the lying swamp republicans for some that actually will drain the government swamp, the second 2 years might actually see some winning instead of the continued stagnation of the government swamp..
mooby 11-05-2017, 10:55 PM Isis' caliphate territory is in shambles. The economy is growing at a faster rate than ever happened under Pres Obama. Unemployment is at a 17 year low, Illegal border crossings are down. Government regulations have been reduced.
People(and media) may not like Trump but if these trends all continue he will win reelection in 2020. The big question will be what happens to the Republican majorities in the 2018 election. If the Trump side of the electorate swaps a few of the lying swamp republicans for some that actually will drain the government swamp, the second 2 years might actually see some winning instead of the continued stagnation of the government swamp..
Right, all of those are things that can be directly attributed to Trump's actions, but not Obama's.
All that money in the economy is gonna be sweet when it all goes to the top, and not to the bottom. Meanwhile, climate change will inevitably progress, and when your generation is dead in a 100 years we'll be stuck with the bill. But at least your retirement will bounce back, and illegals won't be taking the prime strawberry picking/lawn mowing jobs. And when this website will be slower to access because Matty refuses to pay a higher fee so that traffic will be able to visit at the same speed as Amazon, you'll blame Obama, or some other scapegoat, for getting rid of net neutrality. And when federal public school funding drops when Devos announces her new "direct subsidies to charter schools so kids can embrace alternative teaching" methods, you won't care because that ain't your problem. And when Trump's tax plan gets approved, but it won't fix the loopholes, or close the offshore accounts where all major companies hide their profits, and your taxes go down slightly but Trump stands to save a bundle of cash by eliminating the estate tax, you'll go bragging about that minimal relief you got because Trump cares about you, the common man. And when your roads remain shit and you remain stuck in traffic because the local gov't is broke and the federal gov't doesn't have enough funds to hand out grants for major projects, you'll bitch about the corrupt ineffectiveness of gov't and say that's why they don't deserve our money. But at least Muslims won't be able to get in, because they're the ones blowing shit up and committing mass shootings all across our homeland.
CRedskinsRule 11-05-2017, 11:02 PM Right, all of those are things that can be directly attributed to Trump's actions, but not Obama's.
All that money in the economy is gonna be sweet when it all goes to the top, and not to the bottom. Meanwhile, climate change will inevitably progress, and when your generation is dead in a 100 years we'll be stuck with the bill. But at least your retirement will bounce back, and illegals won't be taking the prime strawberry picking/lawn mowing jobs. And when this website will be slower to access because Matty refuses to pay a higher fee so that traffic will be able to visit at the same speed as Amazon, you'll blame Obama, or some other scapegoat, for getting rid of net neutrality. And when federal public school funding drops when Devos announces her new "direct subsidies to charter schools so kids can embrace alternative teaching" methods, you won't care because that ain't your problem. And when Trump's tax plan gets approved, but it won't fix the loopholes, or close the offshore accounts where all major companies hide their profits, and your taxes go down slightly but Trump stands to save a bundle of cash by eliminating the estate tax, you'll go bragging about that minimal relief you got because Trump cares about you, the common man. And when your roads remain shit and you remain stuck in traffic because the local gov't is broke and the federal gov't doesn't have enough funds to hand out grants for major projects, you'll bitch about the corrupt ineffectiveness of gov't and say that's why they don't deserve our money. But at least Muslims won't be able to get in, because they're the ones blowing shit up and committing mass shootings all across our homeland.My point was that, for all the political garbage that goes on, generally people vote the economy. If Isis is severely weakened, the economy continues to grow, and people feel generally contented then all that other stuff you bring up historically won't bring about a presidential election win. It will affect congressional races in local districts but the country tends to vote the economy during presidential races.
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