When is Enough ,Enough?


CRedskinsRule
03-17-2020, 05:25 PM
It seems like Trump and the Democrats are trying to work together through this. Is there any way that we can likewise quarantine the divisiveness in here? I think everyone admits Trump has foot in mouth disease, and I would hope we would all agree that the media chose sides early on, and has lived off fanning the flames of whichever side.

Maybe we can reset in here, of course that requires courage on both sides - acknowledging the strong beliefs about Trump are still out there, G1 and Punch still hate his guts, Chico and I still believe in his agenda, and see the dems as a lynch mob out for Trump's head at any cost. BUT this virus is causing a new version of life. A reset. Let's take that opportunity here, and set aside the bickering where possible. Please? For America LOL

Giantone
03-17-2020, 10:26 PM
Calling it right now, if this blows over by let's say mid summer and the virus is in our rearview, and the market starts bouncing back strong, Trump will definitely parade around trumpeting this as a big win for him and how well he handled it all and try to ride it all the way to re-election.

Hopefully before summer! If it doesn't go well he'll use it as a chance to dump Pence and add Nicky Haley as his VP.

Giantone
03-17-2020, 10:30 PM
It seems like Trump and the Democrats are trying to work together through this. Is there any way that we can likewise quarantine the divisiveness in here? I think everyone admits Trump has foot in mouth disease, and I would hope we would all agree that the media chose sides early on, and has lived off fanning the flames of whichever side.

Maybe we can reset in here, of course that requires courage on both sides - acknowledging the strong beliefs about Trump are still out there, G1 and Punch still hate his guts, Chico and I still believe in his agenda, and see the dems as a lynch mob out for Trump's head at any cost. BUT this virus is causing a new version of life. A reset. Let's take that opportunity here, and set aside the bickering where possible. Please? For America LOL

The only way that can happen is for trump to disappear, his arrogance , ignorance and fully blown arrogance is bringing this country down as much if not more than the virus. No he did not cause the virus it is not his fault but his lack of genuine leadership during the virus crisis is leading to panic.

CRedskinsRule
03-17-2020, 10:35 PM
The only way that can happen is for trump to disappear, his arrogance , ignorance and fully blown arrogance is bringing this country down as much if not more than the virus. No he did not cause the virus it is not his fault but his lack of genuine leadership during the virus crisis is leading to panic.As much as you hate it, he is the president thru this. He isn't disappearing. Like i said, it would take courage and willingness on all parts. I still hope and offer it to anyone and everyone else. Let us all set aside the bickering and focus on the goal of getting past this virus by pulling together behind the president AND Democratic house. We can do this.

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Giantone
03-18-2020, 12:30 PM
As much as you hate it, he is the president thru this. He isn't disappearing. Like i said, it would take courage and willingness on all parts. I still hope and offer it to anyone and everyone else. Let us all set aside the bickering and focus on the goal of getting past this virus by pulling together behind the president AND Democratic house. We can do this.

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So much for working together!



https://www.yahoo.com/news/senate-coronavirus-vote-delayed-rand-002400850.html

Senate coronavirus vote delayed after Rand Paul pushes doomed amendment

CRedskinsRule
03-18-2020, 12:39 PM
So much for working together!







https://www.yahoo.com/news/senate-coronavirus-vote-delayed-rand-002400850.html



Senate coronavirus vote delayed after Rand Paul pushes doomed amendmentRand Paul is a fiscal hawk. Can't read the article now, but let's see what happens next.

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SunnySide
03-18-2020, 01:41 PM
Rand Paul is a fiscal hawk. Can't tead the article now, but let's see what happens next.

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The sources said Paul is forcing a vote on his amendment, which would "require a social security number for purposes of the child tax credit, and to provide the President the authority to transfer funds as necessary, and to terminate United States military operations and reconstruction activities in Afghanistan."

^^ from CReds article.

This maybe should go in the non political coronavirus thread .. but then people will (rightfully) point out that Pauls amendments have nothing to do with responding to the cornoavirus, why is he putting a poison pill in there, etc

I had to switch from Libertarian back to Dem a few years ago bc of Rand Paul and some others.

CRedskinsRule
03-18-2020, 01:55 PM
The sources said Paul is forcing a vote on his amendment, which would "require a social security number for purposes of the child tax credit, and to provide the President the authority to transfer funds as necessary, and to terminate United States military operations and reconstruction activities in Afghanistan."



^^ from CReds article.



This maybe should go in the non political coronavirus thread .. but then people will (rightfully) point out that Pauls amendments have nothing to do with responding to the cornoavirus, why is he putting a poison pill in there, etc



I had to switch from Libertarian back to Dem a few years ago bc of Rand Paul and some others.I get the budget concern from Rand but you are absolutely right that any issues that don't relate directly with cv19 should not be inserted by anyone.

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Giantone
03-19-2020, 09:28 PM
https://www.yahoo.com/gma/state-governors-taking-lead-coronavirus-precautions-federal-government-091636735--abc-news-topstories.html


State governors taking lead on coronavirus precautions as federal government works to define plan


As the coronavirus outbreak continues and the federal government scrambles to come up with a national plan to keep people safe, governors are stepping up.

And health experts have said that their actions, such as shutting down business and calling for self-isolation, have proved crucial at helping contain the outbreak.

Governors of states with the most cases, such as Washington's Jay Inslee, New York's Andrew Cuomo and California's Gavin Newsom, made the right decision by enacting these policies, according to John Auerbach, CEO of Trust for America's Health, a public health advocacy group.

Marianne Udow-Phillips, executive director of the Center for Health and Research Transformation at the University of Michigan, said the governors' messages stick with the public in a way those from the federal government may not.

"Governors hear directly from health care providers, the local business community, school leaders and citizens at large," she said in an email. "They are deeply attuned to local and statewide impacts."

Joshua Epstein, a professor of epidemiology at the NYU School of Global Public Health, stressed that while the states are taking a lead in their regions, it's important that there be consistency with their coronavirus actions. He noted that New York, Connecticut and New Jersey's joint announcement to close non-essential stores was a smart move.

"They don't want people running across state lines to buy goods, and they've worked to keep policies the same," he said.

CRedskinsRule
03-19-2020, 10:19 PM
https://www.yahoo.com/gma/state-governors-taking-lead-coronavirus-precautions-federal-government-091636735--abc-news-topstories.html





State governors taking lead on coronavirus precautions as federal government works to define plan





As the coronavirus outbreak continues and the federal government scrambles to come up with a national plan to keep people safe, governors are stepping up.



And health experts have said that their actions, such as shutting down business and calling for self-isolation, have proved crucial at helping contain the outbreak.



Governors of states with the most cases, such as Washington's Jay Inslee, New York's Andrew Cuomo and California's Gavin Newsom, made the right decision by enacting these policies, according to John Auerbach, CEO of Trust for America's Health, a public health advocacy group.



Marianne Udow-Phillips, executive director of the Center for Health and Research Transformation at the University of Michigan, said the governors' messages stick with the public in a way those from the federal government may not.



"Governors hear directly from health care providers, the local business community, school leaders and citizens at large," she said in an email. "They are deeply attuned to local and statewide impacts."



Joshua Epstein, a professor of epidemiology at the NYU School of Global Public Health, stressed that while the states are taking a lead in their regions, it's important that there be consistency with their coronavirus actions. He noted that New York, Connecticut and New Jersey's joint announcement to close non-essential stores was a smart move.



"They don't want people running across state lines to buy goods, and they've worked to keep policies the same," he said.I am glad to see this. It is actually the way our country should work. The local governments should be taking care and setting laws and conditions appropriate for their states. NY NJ has a far different requirement for cooperation and conditions than wyoming Montana for example.

I said it before, I really think all of our government from local to congress to Trump are pulling together and showing why America is the greatest country on the planet.

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