When is Enough ,Enough?

I am troll but your obsessive Trump bashing is a perfectly normal interaction with people.

LOL, wow you've been drinking the chico water . You can not even answer to what trump did with logic or reason just attack me . I feel sad for you.

This might be the ultimate bullshit media narrative... that rioting now is somehow acceptable? Burning down buildings, attacking people, violence is now ok?



These are the same people that shamed folks protesting, people on a fucking beach, people not wearing mask? Get the fuck out of here.

I’m just gonna remember for the future

Your media hate agenda has gone beyond reason.

Nightline pretty much made out George Foster to be quite the outstanding human being.

From the NY Post:

Floyd had landed five years behind bars in 2009 for an assault and robbery two years earlier, and before that, had been convicted of charges ranging from theft with a firearm to drugs, the Daily Mail reported.

Yet the media makes him out to be a choir boy.

Nightline and the NY Post are part of the media last I checked.

Regardless of his past, did he deserve to die?

If your answer is no why bring this up?

https://www.dailywire.com/news/mac-donald-statistics-do-not-support-the-claim-of-systemic-police-racism

A solid body of evidence finds no structural bias in the criminal-justice system with regard to arrests, prosecution or sentencing, Mac Donald writes; rather, crime and suspect behavior, not race, determine most police actions. Mac Donald writes:

In 2019 police officers fatally shot 1,004 people, most of whom were armed or otherwise dangerous. African-Americans were about a quarter of those killed by cops last year (235), a ratio that has remained stable since 2015. That share of black victims is less than what the black crime rate would predict, since police shootings are a function of how often officers encounter armed and violent suspects. In 2018, the latest year for which such data have been published, African-Americans made up 53% of known homicide offenders in the U.S. and commit about 60% of robberies, though they are 13% of the population.

The police fatally shot nine unarmed blacks and 19 unarmed whites in 2019, according to a Washington Post database, down from 38 and 32, respectively, in 2015. The Post defines “unarmed” broadly to include such cases as a suspect in Newark, N.J., who had a loaded handgun in his car during a police chase. In 2018 there were 7,407 black homicide victims. Assuming a comparable number of victims last year, those nine unarmed black victims of police shootings represent 0.1% of all African-Americans killed in 2019. By contrast, a police officer is 18½ times more likely to be killed by a black male than an unarmed black male is to be killed by a police officer.

Mac Donald also highlights studies by both the Justice Department under President Obama and the finding of an African-American Harvard economist:

A 2015 Justice Department analysis of the Philadelphia Police Department found that white police officers were less likely than black or Hispanic officers to shoot unarmed black suspects. Research by Harvard economist Roland G. Fryer Jr. also found no evidence of racial discrimination in shootings. Any evidence to the contrary fails to take into account crime rates and civilian behavior before and during interactions with police.

Researchers in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences found similar results. “We find no evidence of anti-Black or anti-Hispanic disparities across shootings, and White officers are not more likely to shoot minority civilians than non-White officers,” the report found. “Instead, race-specific crime strongly predicts civilian race. This suggests that increasing diversity among officers by itself is unlikely to reduce racial disparity in police shootings.”

Minneapolis Police Use Force Against Black People at 7 Times the Rate of Whites (https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/06/03/us/minneapolis-police-use-of-force.html)

For someone that is anti media and you use the "dailywire" as a link ?:banghead:


Where in your link did it say Mr Floyd deserved to die?

For someone that is anti media and you use the "dailywire" as a link ?:banghead:


Where in your link did it say Mr Floyd deserved to die?

What’s wrong with dailywire? They are a conservative opinion media and opinion website...they explicitly state it.

Adding context and data to the issue.

I haven’t read any opinions backing the police actions in the case of George Floyd...most, like the daily wire, have stated it was murder and the officers involved should be charged.

I find it impossible that race is not a factor in arrests, prosectution, or sentencing.

In order to believe that the criminal justice system would have to be the only known institution in the world to have successfully removed all racial bias from every cop, judge, prosecutor, etc.

Nightline and the NY Post are part of the media last I checked.

Regardless of his past, did he deserve to die?

If your answer is no why bring this up?

He did not deserve to die, all of the cops involved deserve to be punished. Chauvin deserves 2nd degree murder charges as far as I am concerned, the others need the highest charges they can legally be hit with.

My problem with not bringing up Floyd's criminal past and painting him as a saint provides a false narrative that his life style did not contribute to negative interactions with the police. The media only telling one side of the story does more harm, it puts a fear of police, that doesn't need to be there, into law abiding citizens that could cause them to panic when interacting with law enforcement.

I have had many interactions with police. I would call most of it harassment.
It first started with driving what boiled down to a street legal Nascar in college. They would think I didn't see them riding in my blind spot waiting for me to go on a speed run. I once had a cop follow me for 9 straight right hand turns and I did nothing wrong. Fast forward a couple years I lived in the So Cal mountains. My street was mostly vacation homes, I was the only full time resident. Ever hear of Les Richter? I used to have poker parties, even though he was way down the street from me and no one came near his house on weekends he would call the cops on me making up lies. I stayed away from cops for decades till I took multiple trips cross country. Out of state plates on Suvs attract cops like flies in drug corridors. I got pulled over almost a dozen times for bs excuses and never written a ticket. I was being PROFILED and I am white.

I would estimate I have interacted with cops 3 dozen times or so at least, probably a lot more as those mountain cops hated me. After the first visit I became as uncooperative as I could without going to jail. Richter was wealthy and they probably were catering to him. The first time he called saying people were in the front yard breaking bottles in the street, yet there was no glass to be found.

The morale of the story, pretty much every interaction I had with police went as I dictated, cooperative with hands on the steering wheel had the drug corridor ones last 90 seconds. In college I would just pull over and stop when they started tailing me. I still keep my hands in sight but called them every name in the book. That would get them to go over my car with a fine tooth comb looking for anything they could ticket me on. Sometimes I would be detained for 15 minutes and let go, again no ticket.

Why doesn't the media constantly educate people on how to interact with police to insure the best chances of avoiding a negative outcome? Even the worst cops aren't going around killing people for signing too loud in church. The media is escalating people's fear of police, that does nothing but harm.

I don't think his actions in the past dictated his interactions in what happened recently. All accounts already say he was in custody when the incident happened. I also have not seen anything painting him as a saint. The incidents you have mentioned have been documented in stories in WaPo, NY Times, Fox News etc.