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CRedskinsRule 05-10-2018, 05:47 PM Congress - the Republican controlled congress - has had nearly 2 years notice that they needed to rework the deal. They didn't, cuz they are stupid.
The Democrats would never dare touch Obama's legacy by rescinding or implying in any way that he had pushed a bad treaty through.
Fact is if Obama had been less "I HAVE A PHONE AND A PEN" and the Replubican stooges more willing to find bipartisan answers then a lot of issues would not be issues.
A bipartisan TREATY could not be rescinded by a President
A bipartisan health care plane would not have divided the nation by class/race
A bipartisan budget 6 years ago could have (maybe) kept the debt from skyrocketing
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But the 2 parties and their leadership have shown themselves to be utterly incapable of responsible governing, and thus we end up with candidates like Trump and Sanders who both are crazy and in their own ways will screw up the nation further.
As I said, I agree with most of Trump's agenda, certainly when compared with Sanders', BUT I would rather the governing parties find sane solutions to the problems that are real in our country and our world. Until then we will continue to get polarization, saturation and idiots in the white house.
CRedskinsRule 05-10-2018, 07:28 PM ... Which is probably why Iran was shooting rockets this morning already. ....
Iran and Israel have been trading barbs and hostilities in their Syrian proxy war for years. I agree the timing of this launch was them throwing a tantrum, to use your phrase, but it underlines a part of why the deal was a bad deal. Iran is a bad actor in the region. They are doing what they can to hurt, attack and diminish US allies and power there.
You don't defeat dictators by coddling their desires. You beat them by stacking your strength against theirs and winning.
Chico23231 05-11-2018, 10:14 AM Oh man. Such a tit for tat with you folks. Lol. First of all who cares what Schumer thought about it 3 years ago? Because I dont like Trump I must like Schumer?
Second of all I bet I could dig up an article about some republican who flip flopped on it too just the other way.
Third of all - and most importantly NOBODY is saying they thought the deal is or was perfect. EVERYONE thinks the deal should be amended now. BUT now that it was in place you dont just have an Obama fueled temper tantrum and rip it up with NOTHING in place of it. Which is probably why Iran was shooting rockets this morning already. Bravo. Great job. [emoji849]
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You don't amend bad deals...bad deals shouldn't go through in the first place...its called poor leadership. Dems want do overs on a failed healthcare legislation and now a failed Iran deal. You do know Iran has violated the deal?
pathetic.
punch it in 05-11-2018, 10:35 AM You don't amend bad deals...bad deals shouldn't go through in the first place...its called poor leadership. Dems want do overs on a failed healthcare legislation and now a failed Iran deal. You do know Iran has violated the deal?
pathetic.
There you go again...dems this and trumptards that. Chico take a deep breath, and explain to me what is better about Trumps Iran deal, or his healthcare plan? (Hint : nothing because he doesn’t even have one). Ill wait....
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CRedskinsRule 05-11-2018, 12:01 PM There you go again...dems this and trumptards that. Chico take a deep breath, and explain to me what is better about Trumps Iran deal, or his healthcare plan? (Hint : nothing because he doesn’t even have one). Ill wait....
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I am - believe it or not - going to agree with you. He doesn't have an Iran Deal, or a Healthcare plan
ok, that was fun.
Of course the president is in the Executive branch, and even though Bush2 and Obama seemed to forget this ALOT, the Executive branch doesn't make laws (at least not under our Constitution).
We are in this mess because the Congress, Primarily Republicans for the last 6 years, and the Dems the years before, refuse to create bipartisan workable solutions that can solve the issues.
Let's not act like this was a petulant response. Trump told Congress when he first took office to rework and craft suitable healthcare plan and treaties that could be enacted properly. When they didn't, he followed through on what he had said was going to be the consequences. The shock and outrage is hilarious, because the underpinning of it is that the same people who would crucify him for breaking his long standing pledges, are the ones who act like it's a shock to see a politician actually hold firm to his pledges in the first place.
dmek25 05-11-2018, 02:29 PM youre blaming this mess on congress. when it fact our commander in chief doesnt understand exactly how this whole thing works. he needs to learn how to play well with others, in order to get anything done. this isnt reality TV, where he just gives out orders, and the sheep follow. congress has all of the power. until trump realizes that, this is what you will see the next 2 years
punch it in 05-11-2018, 03:26 PM I am - believe it or not - going to agree with you. He doesn't have an Iran Deal, or a Healthcare plan
ok, that was fun.
Of course the president is in the Executive branch, and even though Bush2 and Obama seemed to forget this ALOT, the Executive branch doesn't make laws (at least not under our Constitution).
We are in this mess because the Congress, Primarily Republicans for the last 6 years, and the Dems the years before, refuse to create bipartisan workable solutions that can solve the issues.
Let's not act like this was a petulant response. Trump told Congress when he first took office to rework and craft suitable healthcare plan and treaties that could be enacted properly. When they didn't, he followed through on what he had said was going to be the consequences. The shock and outrage is hilarious, because the underpinning of it is that the same people who would crucify him for breaking his long standing pledges, are the ones who act like it's a shock to see a politician actually hold firm to his pledges in the first place.
So it is ok to rip healthcare from millions or give Iran freedom to launch at their leisure just to prove a point? Come on man. Maybe he should stop golfing, and tweeting and get to work with Congress instead of dividing them to the point of no return with his piehole man?
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CRedskinsRule 05-11-2018, 03:32 PM So it is ok to rip healthcare from millions or give Iran freedom to launch at their leisure just to prove a point? Come on man. Maybe he should stop golfing, and tweeting and get to work with Congress instead of dividing them to the point of no return with his piehole man?
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He worked with them in the sense that we had the first bipartisan budget after a whole hell of a long time.
Liberals, and those who hate Trump which includes guys like McCain and Corker etc, are as bad as the Republicans who so hated Obama that they obstructed him rather than work toward solutions.
So yes, I give Trump credit for using his bully pulpit to try and bully them into getting their house, and senate, in order. Iran was under sanctions before Obama's pledge, and they will be under sanctions again. They aren't going to war against Israel, and the other night's attack result reminded them of why not.
Giantone 05-12-2018, 09:13 AM As with all things trump he never looked at the big picture,I hope all of you enjoy the 20$ take home from your"tax relief" from trump becuase he just fucked you ten different ways.
https://www.yahoo.com/finance/m/f22bc33d-95f2-339d-8b3c-6fc359df7245/donald-trump-withdrew-the.html
punch it in 05-14-2018, 02:18 PM Holy crap can Donald fuckin Trump just fire the bitch and apologize to the guy who didn’t fake bone spurs to avoid serving? Its not the c$nt that made a crass remark about McCain dying of brain cancer that is the issue it is the fact that we found out that is the problem. Unreal. If I found out my daughter called a kid the N word on the playground I promise you I would bring her to the kids door with a red behind and she would beg for his forgiveness. I would certainly not be concerned about which kid tattled on her. Fuck this disgusting administration.
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