When is Enough ,Enough?


CRedskinsRule
03-08-2018, 07:43 PM
So are we in the negotiating phase, or the "it's signed into law, expect retaliatory tariffs" phase?

Yahoo news lead headline:
Trump takes the sting out of his tariffs

It's just not smart to buy into all the media fearmongering that goes on nowadays. Listening to the main media we would have had 3 nuclear wars; to environmental collapses; a stock market drop along the lines of the great depression all in the last 11 months.

Some countries may try to play the retaliatory game, but all the main actors, including Trump and the US, understand that we don't want a full on trade war, anymore than we want an all out nuclear war. The US for the past 12 years has (economically, and I include Bush so it's not just Dem vs Rep) have been tucking our tail trying to be the "better player" while other countries have taken advantage of it. They know they have had much better access to our markets then we have to theirs, and that for the most part that isn't going to change. AND, until India or China become honest players with strong capital purchasers, we are the biggest and best market to sell in. Especially if we also reduce the regulatory state that has been built up in those same last 12 years.

The world isn't going to go into a trade war tailspin, although you may pay more for hangers (my company deals with lots of steel drapery hangers and are directly affected by all the geopolitical games going on right now).

CRedskinsRule
03-08-2018, 07:45 PM
from the above yahoo headline article:
https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/trump-takes-sting-tariffs-202014234.html

Trump seeking concessions
The exemptions for Mexico and Canada are contingent on the outcome of efforts to renegotiate the North American Free Trade Agreement, which are underway, with no conclusion imminent. Trump wants concessions from both countries that would boost American-made content in the thousands of products that cross the three nations’ borders every day. Trump may view the exemption from his metal tariffs as a carrot to be dangled during the negotiations, and the threat of ending the exemptions as leverage he can use.

Giantone
03-08-2018, 08:48 PM
So, how about the steel and aluminum tariffs? Cred, I'm ignorant, can you tell me who wins in a trade war?


When the other countries retaliate against us , we will lose. Trump does something stupid like this every time something doesn't go well for him .If not the russian investigation ,Hope Hicks, Gary Cohn, Sam Nunberg , son in-law losing his security clearance , always something.

CRedskinsRule
03-08-2018, 09:14 PM
When the other countries retaliate against us , we will lose. Trump does something stupid like this every time something doesn't go well for him .If not the russian investigation ,Hope Hicks, Gary Cohn, Sam Nunberg , son in-law losing his security clearance , always something.http://i0.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/facebook/000/017/886/download.jpg

Giantone
03-09-2018, 09:12 AM
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BaltimoreSkins
03-09-2018, 09:18 AM
I would like to know more about the break down of the tariffs. Not all aluminum and steel is the same grade. When Trump said he wants the nation's military ships and planes made with American steel well it already is. A tariff isn't going to change that he is just trying to rile up his base. The stuff we import tends to be low grade. I would prefer to import it and keep our high grade stuff for making military planes and not sardine cans. So for me there has to be a difference on the tariffs placed on the raw materials. High tariff on high grade stuff keep the low grade stuff tariff free. Raising the price on steel and aluminum will impact the food purchasing power of our poorest members and I am not cool with that. Even if it is only 2 cents a can as was suggested that adds up.

mooby
03-13-2018, 10:01 AM
Nice to see Trump draining the swamp, getting rid of Tillerson. It's the long-career established politicians like Tillerson that need to go the most.

JoeRedskin
03-13-2018, 01:08 PM
Nice to see Trump draining the swamp, getting rid of Tillerson. It's the long-career established politicians like Tillerson that need to go the most.

I see what you did there.

Giantone
03-13-2018, 05:08 PM
Nice to see Trump draining the swamp, getting rid of Tillerson. It's the long-career established politicians like Tillerson that need to go the most.

So ,who is this trump aid that got escorted out of the WH today???



sorry........found him.


John McEntee



https://www.cnn.com/2018/03/13/politics/john-mcentee-white-house-security-clearance/index.html

mooby
03-14-2018, 07:45 AM
Bro, just because Trump surrounds (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rob_Porter) himself (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_McEntee_(political_aide)) with (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rick_Gates_(political_consultant)) criminals (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Manafort), doesn't mean he is one.

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