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mooby 11-08-2017, 07:15 PM Lol just wow. Giantone you are awesome.
This should be an interesting argument. Where is the line of "this economy is Obama's fault" and "this improved economy is because of Trump" and how did you reach that conclusion?
Giantone 11-08-2017, 07:30 PM Lol just wow. Giantone you are awesome.
Okay , you think I'm incorrect ,prove me wrong.What polocies is it that trump has put into place to create such a strong economy or at least make it better than Obama's.What is it that trump has done exactly?
Chico23231 11-08-2017, 07:55 PM This should be an interesting argument. Where is the line of "this economy is Obama's fault" and "this improved economy is because of Trump" and how did you reach that conclusion?
It’s well documented that the entire recovery strategy was mostly that of the Fed. The stimulus bill that was in the works before obama and easily passed with with bipartisan support. Bailouts, healthcare, low interest rates, etc...we can pick but not worth it.
The “great” recovery was the slowest and maybe the worst all time. Somethings were simply out of the locus of control of policy makers, such as an aging population, ie workforce.
As an entirety, the economy recovery really depended on where you were. Here in Virginia...we didn’t feel the brunt because of our leverage of a lot of federal jobs, military, next to the swamp-paid by taxpayers-shithole fake DC economy, leveraged against a beautiful tax policy for both individuals and businesses(thank gop legislators here in va for that).
So sure obama did an ok job, but business leaders across the country agree that the growth was slow, choked, wage growth was a negative (that’s your wealth distribution from the middle class to the poor, ie obama welfare), over regulation, poor trade deals, jobs leaving for overseas, combine with a foreign policy which was absolute shit left a lot of People from the American blue collar worker to the American ceo without a lot of optimism. That’s why trump got elected.
Giantone 11-08-2017, 09:05 PM It’s well documented that the entire recovery strategy was mostly that of the Fed. The stimulus bill that was in the works before obama and easily passed with with bipartisan support. Bailouts, healthcare, low interest rates, etc...we can pick but not worth it.
The “great” recovery was the slowest and maybe the worst all time. Somethings were simply out of the locus of control of policy makers, such as an aging population, ie workforce.
As an entirety, the economy recovery really depended on where you were. Here in Virginia...we didn’t feel the brunt because of our leverage of a lot of federal jobs, military, next to the swamp-paid by taxpayers-shithole fake DC economy, leveraged against a beautiful tax policy for both individuals and businesses(thank gop legislators here in va for that).
So sure obama did an ok job, but business leaders across the country agree that the growth was slow, choked, wage growth was a negative (that’s your wealth distribution from the middle class to the poor, ie obama welfare), over regulation, poor trade deals, jobs leaving for overseas, combine with a foreign policy which was absolute shit left a lot of People from the American blue collar worker to the American ceo without a lot of optimism. That’s why trump got elected.
So you have said what Obama did,like or not ,what has trump done exactly?
Oh and that is not why trump got elected.
TheMalcolmConnection 11-08-2017, 09:48 PM This should be an interesting argument. Where is the line of "this economy is Obama's fault" and "this improved economy is because of Trump" and how did you reach that conclusion?
All of this. Would it make sense to start a “what has trump tangibly done?” Thread?
Like I just want the facts. I’m gleaning some stuff from unbiased sources and he hasn’t done shit that’s beyond self fellatating or being a fat fuck who acts like he’s tough but had the thinnest skin of anyone of all time.
mooby 11-08-2017, 11:27 PM I can tell you what he's done, according to some guy who has a Secret Service agent giving him inside info. Trump apparently likes his steaks well done with ketchup lolol.
Now before you snowflakes get upset about me cracking a joke about what Trump likes to eat, recognize at best it's a joke, at worst it's irrelevant to this discussion. In the words of some white guy, chillax.
CRedskinsRule 11-09-2017, 10:45 AM I said earlier, a lot of what Trump has done is in the realm of "think positive talk" to the stock market and companies. Very much in line with a supply side economic model, he has, through the bully pulpit of the Presidency, made corporations believe that they would be keeping more of their profits through lower taxes, and they would have to deal with a less burdensome regulatory environment. All of which has spurred the up tick in growth and market conditions we are seeing.
I will add that if the Republican congress doesn't come through with bills that enact Trump's statements you could see rapid drop in both the stock market and the economy as a whole.
Chico23231 11-09-2017, 11:01 AM So you have said what Obama did,like or not ,what has trump done exactly?
Oh and that is not why trump got elected.
Oh you wrong, that is exactly why voters chose him.
Trump has certainly energized the economy...CEO/Boards optimism shot thru the roof about many things: de-reg, loosen restricted compliance and govt interference, low tax environment, financials loosen cash/lending more, etc...
This drives major decisions, everything from hiring, expansion, risk environment mitigation, instead of hoarding cash...companies reinvest and drives loan portfolios, simply more cash up and down, etc.
I told you before I know someone in who said in my area, 3 major construction project green lit after trump elected. Hadnt seen that in years...maybe 1 a year.
OHHHH and the liberals who whined about "brexit" which you don't know why, you were just told to whine like bitches because the media said so....Brexit effect hasn't been bad at all. You got lied too...European economy hasn't sunk or shrunk.
mooby 11-09-2017, 06:12 PM Oh you wrong, that is exactly why voters chose him.
Trump has certainly energized the economy...CEO/Boards optimism shot thru the roof about many things: de-reg, loosen restricted compliance and govt interference, low tax environment, financials loosen cash/lending more, etc...
This drives major decisions, everything from hiring, expansion, risk environment mitigation, instead of hoarding cash...companies reinvest and drives loan portfolios, simply more cash up and down, etc.
I told you before I know someone in who said in my area, 3 major construction project green lit after trump elected. Hadnt seen that in years...maybe 1 a year.
OHHHH and the liberals who whined about "brexit" which you don't know why, you were just told to whine like bitches because the media said so....Brexit effect hasn't been bad at all. You got lied too...European economy hasn't sunk or shrunk.
Brexit hasn't even gone into effect yet, and won't for at least another year. So yeah...
Also, as for your economy statement, I am absolutely not sitting here saying Trump hasn't improved the economy.
All I'm saying is every other sin is forgiveable to you/his fanbase as long as the economy improves.
CRedskinsRule 11-09-2017, 07:48 PM Brexit hasn't even gone into effect yet, and won't for at least another year. So yeah...
Also, as for your economy statement, I am absolutely not sitting here saying Trump hasn't improved the economy.
All I'm saying is every other sin is forgiveable to you/his fanbase as long as the economy improves.
I certainly am a Trump supporter, and I guess I would have to say yes - so far.
I haven't seen anything at all that rises to the amount of hysterical coverage he has received. Admittedly, I tend to ignore his grandiose hyperbole, and try to look at the point he is making, so when he says it's the greatest blahdeblah ever, I ignore that statement nearly every time. And I support the basics of his agenda, even (maybe especially) the ones that the liberal progressive group decry as ending the world as we know it.
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