When is Enough ,Enough?


jamf
01-10-2018, 05:06 PM
LOL, so you want me to be happy that in the battle of two of the worlds's most fucked up leaders .....trump won.:doh:
The Olympics won.
After the Olympics things will return to a pissing contest.

mooby
01-11-2018, 06:53 PM
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-attacks-protections-for-immigrants-from-%e2%80%98shithole%e2%80%99-countries-in-oval-office-meeting/ar-AAuzqTo?li=BBnb7Kz

I'm not even surprised Trump referred to countries like Haiti/El Salvador/various African countries as shitholes, nothing he says really surprises me anymore. But in regards to his question as to why only people from shithole countries want to come here, instead of Norwegians, that shouldn't be a tough question to answer. Why would Norwegians want to come here when their quality of life isn't as bad as it is in places like Haiti/Africa?

MTK
01-11-2018, 09:07 PM
Can’t believe a racist said some racist shit, what a turd this guy is

TheMalcolmConnection
01-12-2018, 09:38 AM
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-attacks-protections-for-immigrants-from-%e2%80%98shithole%e2%80%99-countries-in-oval-office-meeting/ar-AAuzqTo?li=BBnb7Kz

I'm not even surprised Drumpf referred to countries like Haiti/El Salvador/various African countries as shitholes, nothing he says really surprises me anymore. But in regards to his question as to why only people from shithole countries want to come here, instead of Norwegians, that shouldn't be a tough question to answer. Why would Norwegians want to come here when their quality of life isn't as bad as it is in places like Haiti/Africa?

EXACTLY what I thought when I first heard this.

He literally is the fucking worst.

mooby
01-12-2018, 12:54 PM
EXACTLY what I thought when I first heard this.

He literally is the fucking worst.

I thought u/BadDecisionDino on reddit summed it up pretty well:


The most offensive part about Trump's comments today wasn't the word "shithole". It was the word "Why".

“Why are we having all these people from shithole countries come here?”

Do people even really understand what our president is saying?

Look, I'm not angry because he calls places "shitholes". I'm a first generation immigrant. I come from a shithole. I lived 10 years in a shithole. I'll freely call it a shithole. I won't get offended if you call it a shithole! It's a shithole! Happy?

But how DARE he use my origin as an excuse to demand an additional reason to explain my presence here? Why is it up to me (but not say, a white Norwegian) to provide some extra level of justification for why I deserve the chance to be an American?

If these places really are shitholes, shouldn't there be an even greater obligation to help people who come from there, specifically because they're in the most danger?

Apparently not. Because Trump sincerely believes that some people deserve the chance to be Americans, and some people do not deserve the chance to be Americans, and your birthplace (and by extension, your race) is a key deciding factor in whether you deserve the chance to be an American.

Trump is practically saying "America is for white people. The rest are interlopers until proven otherwise. Until someone explains to me WHY they're even allowed here." Let's not forget either, that in this particular situation, he's not even talking about illegal immigrants. He doesn't get to even use that old fig-leaf. He's talking about a reconfiguration of who we even allow the chance to become legal, not based on merit, not based on national security, not based on employability, but specifically targeted against the people he happens to hate.

Let's cut the crap. Deep down, we know damn well that he's not talking about your place of origin. Who do you think Trump is more likely to feel is more deserving citizenship? One of those scary Muslims that are "taking over" Norway, or a white South African? Cuz I got a feeling that when he's looking at those people, the calculus for determining whether their home countries count as "shitholes" suddenly changes.

And yet, the media is taking the bait. Already they rush to obfuscate the issue, to absolve him of the real evil of his comment by focusing on the "inappropriate word" he used.

Already, we're having these dumb conversations like "Well, to be fair, Haiti isn't exactly a nice place to live, he's just saying what everyone thinks privately, and he just chose a colorful word to describe it...", and instead of focusing on the racism, we just go "Oh, but look at the pretty beaches of Haiti! It's not a shithole! Look at the natural beauty and rich culture of-" SHUT THE FUCK UP!

What bearing does that debate have on anything?!? As if Trump's greatest sin is not watching the Travel Channel?

What our president said today isn't just boorish, it isn't just cruel. It betrays a deep and insidious level of racism that can only be described as white supremacy. He is literally throwing a tantrum because the "wrong people" are enjoying the benefit of immigration.

And it is so depressing and so terrifying, that even Trump's opponents - the people who represent the best hope we got to survive this regime - are just gonna waltz past that and chide him for his language.

If I'm the one from the shithole, how come Americans are so stupid that they keep falling for this crap over and over?

dmek25
01-12-2018, 01:52 PM
where's trumps number one fan chico? im sure this is fake news?

Chico23231
01-12-2018, 02:44 PM
where's trumps number one fan chico? im sure this is fake news?

Lol I’m not trump no 1 fan even though I like to faux-ala
-Colbert that role to troll the ‘flakes.

If true, much like the Charlottesville comments, then it indefensible. But it’s anonymous sources so far. Which is cowardly imo when u put something out as salacious as this. But assuming it is, it shows a basic lack of understanding of immigration.

In terms of shithole...it’s terrible and unjust he would classified the people as shit. But let’s keep it real, the rulers of most African countries are pure shit. Rife with corruption, violence, etc. They have created these shitholes and hells to live in. We should be happy to accept the best and brightest as well as the persecuted. I work and have worked with a several immigrants from Africa, we need more because my experience has been they are hard workers, they are extremely family oriented and intelligent. They also worked hard to be American citizens and immigrated the right way. They didn’t take short cuts, they did try to illegally come into the country. One has actually told me, they hate those people...illegals because they lie and cheat to be here.

MTK
01-12-2018, 03:04 PM
Source

https://chicago.suntimes.com/news/dick-durbin-confirms-trump-shithole-comments/

MTK
01-12-2018, 03:05 PM
Don’t bother trying to justify or explain it, Trump is just a shitbag of a human being who simply has no business being President

BaltimoreSkins
01-12-2018, 03:25 PM
Lol I’m not trump no 1 fan even though I like to faux-ala
-Colbert that role to troll the ‘flakes.

If true, much like the Charlottesville comments, then it indefensible. But it’s anonymous sources so far. Which is cowardly imo when u put something out as salacious as this. But assuming it is, it shows a basic lack of understanding of immigration.

In terms of shithole...it’s terrible and unjust he would classified the people as shit. But let’s keep it real, the rulers of most African countries are pure shit. Rife with corruption, violence, etc. They have created these shitholes and hells to live in. We should be happy to accept the best and brightest as well as the persecuted. I work and have worked with a several immigrants from Africa, we need more because my experience has been they are hard workers, they are extremely family oriented and intelligent. They also worked hard to be American citizens and immigrated the right way. They didn’t take short cuts, they did try to illegally come into the country. One has actually told me, they hate those people...illegals because they lie and cheat to be here.

I would even take it a step further and say that developed countries are part of the cause of these countries being shit holes. Cheap extraction of nonrenewable resources to sustain our lifestyle have aided in the exploitation of women and children and helped those in power corrupt the system. To me, we have an obligation.

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