When is Enough ,Enough?

Ha 400 billion is a lil much. We could finance their terror operations for the next 100 years. Thanks for catching that.



I will give 400 billion to someone that can make grass seed that grows instantly into lush green grass with no work involved. Seriously becoming a sloppy time to drink around my fire pit.
Seriously though- C Red made a comment earlier about how he was sure he could find a hypocritical video montage from msnbc where they change their tune on an issue based on which side was the perpetrator, and that was the only point i was trying to make this morning- i mean please watch that fox video i posted. Not sure how that bought us back to clinton and obama but Fox is the only media outlet doing a disservice- they literally have millions of Americans believing this morning that Trump has bought peace to the peninsula because he finally had the balls to speak with Kim face to face. In reality - this is the umpteenth time that Kim has “promised “ to de nuke, and they absolutely roasted Obama for the mere mention of doing such things. That is not a leftist spin it is exactly what has happened.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/12/sports/trump-letters-world-cup.html


Give Trump credit for USA getting the World Cup (http://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/fifa-world-cup/give-trump-credit-for-usa-getting-the-world-cup/ar-AAyA0vl?ocid=ientp)

Give Trump credit for USA getting the World Cup


Someone on a roll this week...We got the bigly Soccer Cup!

I think the media coverage of this whole event is shameful to the American people. To hear the fear, the lack of facts, and lies its pretty unreal. We should be excited and hopeful. The tone changed but our posture is still strong and ready.

I think if this would have happened 3 years ago the press would be celebrating.

Of course you do, the truth does'nt fit your narrative. Your choice's are are with Punch or,back trump and blame the media. To you trump is never wrong always right and when trump is wrong it's the "bias media". Just stop.

Of course you do, the truth does'nt fit your narrative. Your choice's are are with Punch or,back trump and blame the media. To you trump is never wrong always right and when trump is wrong it's the "bias media". Just stop.

No. The media certainly has the right to critique the meeting and the signed document/agreement thingy.

But when NBC Today show starts the show with what "Trump gave away" as a headline or CNN runs headlines on the website "Nothing was changed or gained" then we have a problem with honesty. You need to provide context, perspective and all the facts. You cant provide the American People half the facts, just like you cant declare victory from yesterday. A story as big as this should be framed properly. I know you don't get it, but

There is no way in hell a similar montage exists about Obama and msnbc to that extent of hypocrisy. No way. There is changing your tune, and there is changing your entire album. Lol.

I think it can be compared to how the praises were sung after the Iran deal.

Iran is not a much better actor than NK.

We both admit our biases here, but I think you still credit non Fox news as way too credible for what they really are.

News outlets today are simply sycophants for their preferred policies, and the politicians that support them.

No. The media certainly has the right to critique the meeting and the signed document/agreement thingy.



But when NBC Today show starts the show with what "Trump gave away" as a headline or CNN runs headlines on the website "Nothing was changed or gained" then we have a problem with honesty. You need to provide context, perspective and all the facts. You cant provide the American People half the facts, just like you cant declare victory from yesterday. A story as big as this should be framed properly. I know you don't get it, but



I love how you refer to the actual agreement as a “thingy”. Lol. Good job.

I think it can be compared to how the praises were sung after the Iran deal.



Iran is not a much better actor than NK.



We both admit our biases here, but I think you still credit non Fox news as way too credible for what they really are.



News outlets today are simply sycophants for their preferred policies, and the politicians that support them.



But the difference is their tune hasn’t changed on the Iran deal. They have been consistent. It was not a perfect deal but it was / is better than nothing. They still say that after Trump ripped it up and replaced it with nothing. So unless he does create a better deal which is what he said he would do we have no way to judge their “potential” bias.
However Fox is completely 100% changing their tune on a POTUS meeting face to face with a foreign dictator.
Apples and oranges my friend.

No you miss my point.

And it wasnt clearly expressed. Not sure i can. But here it goes.

My hypothesis is that had obama made a deal with nk instead if iran, the msm coverage would have run much like the love for obama around the iran deal. And if trump had made a deal with iran, it would have been him dealing with an evil empire and saying iran isnt trustworthy.


The news no longer cares what reality is only which side they want to present.

I think it can be compared to how the praises were sung after the Iran deal.

Iran is not a much better actor than NK.

We both admit our biases here, but I think you still credit non Fox news as way too credible for what they really are.

News outlets today are simply sycophants for their preferred policies, and the politicians that support them.

The axis of evil....Ole Dub wasn't wrong about that.

NK and Iran are fairly dangerous in their own respect. NK being isolated really hurts their effectiveness as a country when its comes down to influence. They lack a respectable position even in their region. Militarily, they cannot fuel or feed their army either.

Iran on the other hand is the top Shai Muslim country in the world with a competent army. They have an intelligent service which is effective for that region...globally not so much. BUT, they have been have a competent money funneling system where they support Terrorism throughout the world. What is really strange about Iran is their people are relatively "modern" for the region and the country is more liberal than its Suni counterparts...Why that doesn't translate into their government is a strange....but it goes to show that the Ayatollah holds the most power in the country.

If you had to point to which is the more "dangerous" country? I think Iran easily wins...even with NK with a nuclear weapon...even if they can deliver it on a rocket. I think Iran with a nuclear weapon would be extremely dangerous with their terrorist connections.

No you miss my point.

And it wasnt clearly expressed. Not sure i can. But here it goes.

My hypothesis is that had obama made a deal with nk instead if iran, the msm coverage would have run much like the love for obama around the iran deal. And if trump had made a deal with iran, it would have been him dealing with an evil empire and saying iran isnt trustworthy.


The news no longer cares what reality is only which side they want to present.


I hear you, but,..... CRed no liberal news media outlets are ripping Trump for meeting with Kim. They are ripping what he said and accomplished (or didn’t accomplish). Maybe they would have praised Obama if he said and accomplished the same thing. But that is a huge hypothetical. The right wing news media is clearly contradicting their stance on the actual meeting itself. They are clearly applauding this as a first step and ignoring what actually happened, and they clearly scoffed at Obama for wanting to meet with Kim?
Again apples and oranges.