When is Enough ,Enough?


mooby
10-30-2017, 09:24 PM
Just curious Chico, do you think our focus should be on Hollywood and Silicon Valley, or should it be on the widespread sexual harassment that women in every industry face as a whole?

Chico23231
10-30-2017, 09:55 PM
Just curious Chico, do you think our focus should be on Hollywood and Silicon Valley, or should it be on the widespread sexual harassment that women in every industry face as a whole?

Why are their rampant stories coming from these industries? That’s the question I’m asking. Why is that...these institutions where the liberals run the show? You don’t see that or....? Just be aware of what’s going on...

mooby
10-31-2017, 01:17 AM
Why are their rampant stories coming from these industries? That’s the question I’m asking. Why is that...these institutions where the liberals run the show? You don’t see that or....? Just be aware of what’s going on...

I could say the same thing about the Trump, O'Reilly, Ailes allegations? Seems like you've conveniently forgot your President is on tape saying you can grab women by the pussy and get away with it because you have power.

It also seems to me you want to focus on party lines on these harassment issues, whereas what I'm trying to say is that in any industry where one man holds plenty of power, that same power allows him to get away with bs like this. Politics, media, Hollywood, it doesn't matter. Getting away with sexual harassment and/or assault because of your status needs to be eradicated. I don't fucking care if it's a lefty or a righty, they are pieces of shit. Latest case in point, Kevin Spacey. Only a douche would try to make a public announcement about being gay to cover up the fact he tried to rape a 14 year old boy.

If you want to continue this crusade against Hollywood (broad term implying anybody who works in the movie industry and conveniently ignores the fact that not every single celebrity/person who works in the industry is a piece of shit) while ignoring the fact it happens in politics and in the media, go right ahead. This is why I have a hard time not lumping you in with the rest of the Trumpette's. Picking and choosing arguments at your convenience makes you look ignorant and biased.

jamf
10-31-2017, 12:38 PM
Why are their rampant stories coming from these industries? That’s the question I’m asking. Why is that...these institutions where the liberals run the show? You don’t see that or....? Just be aware of what’s going on...

Why are their rampant stories(Racism) coming from these industries? That’s the question I’m asking. Why is that...these institutions where the Conservatives run the show? You don’t see that or....? Just be aware of what’s going on...

https://news-images.vice.com/images/articles/meta/2016/04/23/anti-racist-protesters-outnumbered-white-supremacists-10-to-1-at-a-racist-rally-in-georgia-1461447954.jpg?crop=0.6686159844054581xw:1xh;0.239 76608187134502xw,0xh

http://cdn.straightfromthea.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/KKK-Rally-Atlanta-2014-3.jpg

jamf
10-31-2017, 12:46 PM
OK that was an asshole post by me but I wanted to make a point.

IMO abuse is related to power not political affiliation.
People trying to catch a break in the entertainment industry are vulnerable to these predators.

The same goes for abuse by the Catholic Church or Law Enforcement/Military particularly in areas where there is little oversight.

People get off on the abuse of power.
Timeline of Trump's Creepiness While He Owned Miss Universe - Rolling Stone (http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/features/timeline-of-trumps-creepiness-while-he-owned-miss-universe-w444634)

Chico23231
10-31-2017, 01:48 PM
I could say the same thing about the Trump, O'Reilly, Ailes allegations? Seems like you've conveniently forgot your President is on tape saying you can grab women by the pussy and get away with it because you have power.

It also seems to me you want to focus on party lines on these harassment issues, whereas what I'm trying to say is that in any industry where one man holds plenty of power, that same power allows him to get away with bs like this. Politics, media, Hollywood, it doesn't matter. Getting away with sexual harassment and/or assault because of your status needs to be eradicated. I don't fucking care if it's a lefty or a righty, they are pieces of shit. Latest case in point, Kevin Spacey. Only a douche would try to make a public announcement about being gay to cover up the fact he tried to rape a 14 year old boy.

If you want to continue this crusade against Hollywood (broad term implying anybody who works in the movie industry and conveniently ignores the fact that not every single celebrity/person who works in the industry is a piece of shit) while ignoring the fact it happens in politics and in the media, go right ahead. This is why I have a hard time not lumping you in with the rest of the Trumpette's. Picking and choosing arguments at your convenience makes you look ignorant and biased.

Fox news certainly has/had an issue with it...I think that's evident. But in terms of reach...its not fucking close to an institution such as Hollywood where this has gone on for 30+, 40+ years.

Not a close comparison.

Chico23231
10-31-2017, 02:06 PM
Why are their rampant stories(Racism) coming from these industries? That’s the question I’m asking. Why is that...these institutions where the Conservatives run the show? You don’t see that or....? Just be aware of what’s going on...

https://news-images.vice.com/images/articles/meta/2016/04/23/anti-racist-protesters-outnumbered-white-supremacists-10-to-1-at-a-racist-rally-in-georgia-1461447954.jpg?crop=0.6686159844054581xw:1xh;0.239 76608187134502xw,0xh

http://cdn.straightfromthea.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/KKK-Rally-Atlanta-2014-3.jpg

I mean, these are irrelevant folks who have always been around where their little weak-ass outfits, saying weak-ass shit. They get laughed...and are the lowest of the low. They are the extreme of an extreme minority of people in the country. Irrelevant.

BUT, unfortunately we live in a time where media has given power and a platform. Somehow we take an image and think this is a "fixed" and "determinate" truth. And right now there is general atmosphere where this type of thinking is acceptable. We need to be smarter and we must understand that there is revenue to be earned in dividing everyone.

I don't understand when some folks will exact scrutiny of a handshake or what outfit a first lady choses to wear...but will not give that same scrutiny to just critical thinking.

jamf
10-31-2017, 02:34 PM
I mean, these are irrelevant folks who have always been around where their little weak-ass outfits, saying weak-ass shit. They get laughed...and are the lowest of the low. They are the extreme of an extreme minority of people in the country. Irrelevant.

This is irrelevent?
http://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/170813002022-34-charlottesville-white-nationalist-protest-0812-exlarge-169.jpg



BUT, unfortunately we live in a time where media has given power and a platform. Somehow we take an image and think this is a "fixed" and "determinate" truth. And right now there is general atmosphere where this type of thinking is acceptable. We need to be smarter and we must understand that there is revenue to be earned in dividing everyone.

Ahh the great media bias crutch. Don't we have a thread for that?
Conservatives complaining about the Media Bias is like a 600lb woman who complains that John Stamos got too fat for her.
Yes the media as a whole is about making money (BOTH SIDES!!!!) and there is a lack of true Journalistic Integrity, AGREED!
Now back to that bloviating pig who is the president of the united states, What do you think of his integrity?


I don't understand when some folks will exact scrutiny of a handshake or what outfit a first lady choses to wear...but will not give that same scrutiny to just critical thinking.
Who would do such a thing?
Obama's Choice to Bare Arms Causes Uproar - ABC News (http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=6986019&page=1)

mooby
10-31-2017, 04:58 PM
Ahh the great media bias crutch. Don't we have a thread for that?
Conservatives complaining about the Media Bias is like a 600lb woman who complains that John Stamos got too fat for her.
Yes the media as a whole is about making money (BOTH SIDES!!!!) and there is a lack of true Journalistic Integrity, AGREED!
Now back to that bloviating pig who is the president of the united states, What do you think of his integrity?


Who would do such a thing?
Obama's Choice to Bare Arms Causes Uproar - ABC News (http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=6986019&page=1)

I also agree on this. But the way to get rid of it is to tune it out. As long as people click, it will continue. Can't lose that ad revenue, otherwise the media would be really fucked.

Chico23231
11-02-2017, 11:51 AM
Hillary Clinton’s campaign took over the Democratic National Committee's funding and day-to-day operations early in the primary season and may have used that power to undermine her rival Senator Bernie Sanders, according to the party's one-time interim chairwoman.

The DNC official, Donna Brazile, now a political analyst, wrote in Politico Magazine on Thursday that she discovered an August 2015 agreement between the national committee and Clinton’s campaign and fundraising arm that gave Clinton “control (of) the party’s finances, strategy, and all the money raised” in exchange for taking care of the massive debt leftover from President Barack Obama’s 2012 campaign.

It wasn't illegal, Brazile said, "but it sure looked unethical."

"If the fight had been fair, one campaign would not have control of the party before the voters had decided which one they wanted to lead," Brazile wrote. "This was not a criminal act, but as I saw it, it compromised the party’s integrity."

Brazile wrote that she had “promised” Sanders to find out if the DNC had intentionally “rigged” the primary system in order to prop up Clinton and assure she became the nominee. That assertion first popped up after the DNC’s emails, hacked by Russians, had been published online and showed former DNC Chairwoman Debbie Wasserman Schultz and others may have tipped the scales for the Democrat Clinton versus Sanders, an independent seeking the Democratic Party nod.

“I had tried to search out any other evidence of internal corruption that would show that the DNC was rigging the system to throw the primary to Hillary, but I could not find any in party affairs or among the staff,” Brazile wrote. "I was happy to see that I had found none. Then I found this agreement.”


Brazile, a former CNN contributor who was later dismissed after it was discovered she had forked over debate questions to Clinton’s campaign, claimed when she took over as party chairwoman, the DNC was $24 million in debt. Clinton’s campaign, according to Brazile, assumed that debt with its own fundraising.

“Hillary for America (the campaign) and the Hillary Victory Fund (its joint fundraising vehicle with the DNC) had taken care of 80 percent of the remaining debt in 2016, about $10 million, and had placed the party on an allowance,” according to Brazile.

Normally, candidates take over their respective party’s operations after securing the nomination, but Brazile wrote Clinton had done so almost 15 months before last year’s election.

The timeline of when all this allegedly occurred was not fully explained by Brazile, but she wrote that the discovery was made “weeks” before the election. She said she told Sanders what she found out and that he took the supposed information “stoically.”

Brazile took over as interim DNC chair, a spot now officially held by Tom Perez, back in July 2016 after Wasserman Schultz resigned.


Brazile: Hillary Rigged DNC Against Bernie (http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/brazile-hillary-rigged-dnc-against-bernie/ar-AAumfqZ?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=ientp)



Another instance where Trump is 110% correct. ABSOLUTE Corruptness by the Democratic Nation Party.

Why in the hell would anyone ever vote for this party again? Too me, this would be the death penalty. AND you better fucking believe this is same type of corruptness that put Clinton LOYALIST Tom Perez as head of the DNC.

Complete and utter corruptness. No 2 ways to view it.


As expected, CNN nor any major news org running the story

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