When is Enough ,Enough?

trump will never learn that words have consequences!


https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/trump-posts-pro-gop-ad-053924624.html

President Donald Trump tweeted a pro-GOP ad early Wednesday afternoon that’s being compared to George H.W. Bush’s racist “Willie Horton” ad from the 1988 election.

“It is outrageous what the Democrats are doing to our Country. Vote Republican now!” Trump tweeted alongside the video.

Beginning with the legend “illegal immigrant, Luis Bracamontes, killed our people!” the ad compares the caravan of Central American asylum seekers traveling to the U.S. that have made headlines in recent days to Bracamontes, an undocumented immigrant and drug dealer who was convicted of murder in February after being deported twice over the past 21 years. It cuts footage of Bracamontes with news clips of the caravan. Bracamontes, who killed two police officers in Sacramento, Calif. and was sentenced to death, states that he wishes he had killed more.

“Democrats let him in,” the ad reads. “Democrats let him stay.”

Words will only have consequences for him if the democrats can get their shit together. I am highly doubtful.

The best border security in my mind are more stable economies and governments in the western hemisphere. Neither party really addresses that properly either.

That's the truth! :food-smil

I would rather people not feel forced (by economic or political conditions) to make a hazardous and inhuman trek - especially with children, then have them drawn to this country.

I also think that these people would work hard in their countries if given the conditions to succeed, but having the abled bodied flee their own countries doesn't help that situation.

And this is the quagmire of southern immigration, when the governments of free people are so corrupt/anarchistic so as to lead them into poverty, how do the wealthy nations of the world help. It's a dilemna no one has solved :(

For all the poverty assistance programs that we (1st world nations) have mounted, how many countries have really upgraded their conditions.

I will be the first to say I don't know the solution, I can only see the ways that our past efforts have failed :(

Unfortunately some countries are going to need civil wars to see any drastic changes. We better stay out of that shit. I'm becoming a libertarian when it comes to wars, etc.

Words will only have consequences for him if the democrats can get their shit together. I am highly doubtful.

LOL, yeah they might not win as much but I think there will be enough of a turn over to get in his way.

trump and sticks and stones.............


https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-stoking-caravan-fears-says-troops-will-fire-migrants-throw-rocks-003953495.html


President Trump said Thursday that he hopes the military troops being deployed to the United States’ southwestern border will not have to fire upon any migrants attempting to enter the country through Mexico, but warned that if any rocks are thrown from across the border “we will consider that a firearm.”

“They want to throw rocks at our military, our military fights back,” Trump said. “I say, consider it a rifle.”

LOL, yeah they might not win as much but I think there will be enough of a turn over to get in his way.

I don't know if anyone else feels like making predictions, but here is mine.

The Republicans have a net gain in the Senate of 4 seats, giving them 55 total
The Democrats have a net gain of 28 seats in the House, giving 221 total.

This is my prediction, but also my preferred outcome. I firmly believe that a win of the house will give the democratic base a steam release valve. They will vote to impeach trump, that will die in the Senate. The house will hold hearings ad nauseam, and Trump will decry every one of them.

BUT

Trump will work with the House and Senate, and they will find compromise positions that won't get destroyed by the far right side of the aisle, and the far left side will be getting it's raw meat in the form of the impeachment hearings. My basis for this thought is that during the Kavanaugh hearings, even as the hard left/right bases were frothing at the mouth, several budget bills, and other bills passed with overwhelming bipartisan support. When one side has all the branches, the other side is forced into unwieldy opposition, and that is what we have seen several times in the past.

I don't know if anyone else feels like making predictions, but here is mine.

The Republicans have a net gain in the Senate of 4 seats, giving them 55 total
The Democrats have a net gain of 28 seats in the House, giving 221 total.

This is my prediction, but also my preferred outcome. I firmly believe that a win of the house will give the democratic base a steam release valve. They will vote to impeach trump, that will die in the Senate. The house will hold hearings ad nauseam, and Trump will decry every one of them.

BUT

Trump will work with the House and Senate, and they will find compromise positions that won't get destroyed by the far right side of the aisle, and the far left side will be getting it's raw meat in the form of the impeachment hearings. My basis for this thought is that during the Kavanaugh hearings, even as the hard left/right bases were frothing at the mouth, several budget bills, and other bills passed with overwhelming bipartisan support. When one side has all the branches, the other side is forced into unwieldy opposition, and that is what we have seen several times in the past.

I think right on ,on the Senate but I think you giving to much to the Dems in Congress.I think at best they gain 12-15 seats . The trump terror tour is working on mid America.

I think right on ,on the Senate but I think you giving to much to the Dems in Congress.I think at best they gain 12-15 seats . The trump terror tour is working on mid America.

a 12 - 15 seat gain for the dems would be the worst of both worlds.

the house would virtually die in committees and in fighting. Likely the right wing of the Republicans would take leadership, and the moderates would side with the dems to block everything.

Normally I am ok with stalemated government, but I believe - like the daca for the wall proposal - Trump would find a way to negotiate with the house under pelosi, or any other democrat, and the republican senate would make sure - from my perspective - that the bills don't get too skewed towards the socialist wing of the democratic party.

You have to admit this was good...............


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZZqlQ7vIe8&feature=youtu.be

I don't know if anyone else feels like making predictions, but here is mine.

The Republicans have a net gain in the Senate of 4 seats, giving them 55 total
The Democrats have a net gain of 28 seats in the House, giving 221 total.
...

I was pretty close. We won't know what the final counts are for a while, but it looks +4 and +28 is about right.

The House may gain a few more, but 55 seems dead on for the Senate. The other difference on the 55 is that there is no Flake, Corker, or McCain. There is only 1 maybe 2 non-Trump Republican senators. That means there won't be a thumbs down moment for bills the republicans agree to with the Democratic house. That's why I am really hopeful we will finally see meaningful, passable healthcare reform that is bipartisan.

I hope.